Starbucks Planning Renovation To Madison Store

One fewer seat inside, nine more outside planned; Request sparks discussion about parking in CVS plaza; Planning & Zoning Commission grants approval to request.


The shop at the CVS plaza in downtown Madison at 613 Boston Post Road will undergo renovations, scheduled to begin sometime in mid-March.

Brian Lorenz, of WD Partners, a design firm from Dublin, Ohio, presented plans at a recent Planning & Zoning Commission meeting that called for one less seat inside and an additional nine outside. So seating inside would go from 20 to 19, and seating outside would go from 29 to 38.

Lorenz said the renovations would include additional improvemens to the patio area, including bench seating, and new tables and chairs. "All of the furniture will be switche, there will be new trash receptacles and pots, and new decorative planters," he said. The store also plans to put a new sign outside. 

Modifications to the inside will include some remodeling and the installation of new equipment, Lorenz said.

Terry Macy, a member of the Planning & Zoning Commission, asked whether there was sufficient parking at the plaza to accomodate the net gain in customers, a subject that was then debated by other members of the commission. 

Commissioner member Ron Clark, with a Starbucks Coffee cup parked prominently in front of him during deliberations, noted that he was a big fan of the coffee shop.

"I've been known to go to Starbucks," he said. "But not to the point where I'm convinced I should have to recuse myself."

He said that "94 percent of the time" he is able to find parking easily. But he, and the other members of the commission, agreed that some additional direction in the parking, when it comes to traffic patterns, would be  good thing. This could be done by painting arrows, among other measures, town officials said.

Clark said the parking lot is popular with many area residents. "In the early morning and weekends, there is a whole group of runners who use the parking lot, run, and then come back," he said. He said Starbucks' outside patio tends to be busy mostly in the evenings, on Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon. "It's often not highly used during the business day," he said.

P&ZC Member Christopher Traugh said the traffic in front of the store, which is next to a sandwich shop, and , is often so busy that he goes "right to the back" of the parking. "I don't want to have to deal with the front," he said.

Clark asked how long the renovations would take and whether the store would have to be closed.

Lorenz said the renovations likely would take 10 to 14 days, and that he did not know if the store would have to be closed. He said some locations set up a kiosk to serve customers while renovations are underway.

He said after the meeting that both the interior and exterior would look different afterwards. "It will be rebranded and refreshed," he said.

This story was corrected at 3:56 p.m. on Friday, Jan. 27 to clarify comments made by Planning & Zoning Commission members.

Ed Brunt January 27, 2012 at 02:55 PM
I usually park behind CVS and walk along the west side of the building. There is currently a well worn dirt path here and it gets messy on days like today. They should put in a brick or concrete sidewalk to better connect to the additional parking in the rear of the building.
eileen banisch January 27, 2012 at 08:15 PM
Ed, that's a great idea. It can connect to the improved patio area and be both attractive and practical, and encourage people to park in the rear of the building and walk.
Charles January 27, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Never enough parking if I was CVS or Subway I would object and the patio probably is illegal now.
tom burland January 27, 2012 at 09:56 PM
Charles thankfully you are not CVS or Subway...most stores like the face that other neighboring store attract people. Their is enough parking if you use the back lot, and a walkway around the west side is a great idea
Richard January 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM
The plaza has the worst combination of stores for the location, parking, and access onto route the Post Rd. Making a left out of the plaza is a nightmare. Each of these businesses is a rapid turnover business. What a shame that Starbucks located there. The owners of the plaza neglected it for years and the parking lot is full of potholes. Its amazing that more accidents haven't occurred for those attempting to turn left coming out of the plaza.
Phil January 28, 2012 at 07:23 PM
If there is enough parking out back, why do people park in the "NO PARKING" area near the store. I think your Lexus, Benz and BMW will be fine out back. Stop being lazy and park legally!
Chris Johnson January 31, 2012 at 05:11 AM
Shut up phil.
Phil January 31, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Then when i double park and block you in your spot in the "NO PARKING" area, I guess there is nothing you can really do
Pem McNerney (Editor) January 31, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Hey folks, please, let's stay focused on the topic and not each other. Thanks.
Chris Johnson January 31, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Well wouldn't you just be breaking your own rule and parking illegally (not to mention blocking traffic through the entire front portion of the parking lot)? Parallel parking in front of the sign doesn't impede traffic and frankly shouldn't bother anyone. If I get a ticket for parking there, I'll pay it. It's much more convenient to park there for a 5 minute trip into Starbucks than to drive all the way around the back, especially in bad weather.
Matt January 31, 2012 at 07:01 PM
OK good idea chris. Hopefully your yuppie-mobile gets rammed out of the way by a fire truck first, then ticketed.
Phil January 31, 2012 at 09:02 PM
I think parking is staying on the topic. Starbucks wants to expand their store which means more people, which in turns creates more parking problems. The signs say "NO PARKING" not because it impedes traffic but where are the fire trucks suppose to park. Chris, Stop being lazy and park your $60,000 car in the back. I'm sure you will still be able to keep your yuppie status
Phil January 31, 2012 at 09:07 PM
If you feel its alright to park there, I feel its ok to double park. Hopefully I will block you in, while I take a stroll downtown for an hour or two
Chris Johnson February 01, 2012 at 03:28 AM
Matt- I'll take my chances. But the overall point I'd like to stress here is how bent out of shape you all are over other people's choices, especially when they have no effect on you whatsoever. Life must get pretty tough when you impulsively have to police everyone around you.
Sarah Page Kyrcz February 01, 2012 at 03:52 AM
I must object to your point that there is enough parking. I think things are getting rather tight at this particular lot and it won't be long before the parking spots are at a real premium!
Matt February 01, 2012 at 05:38 AM
So you think it is ok to park in a fire lane because you are some how more important and more special than everyone else who used a parking space? Please explain to us all here how exactly YOU are more important than a fire truck or ambulance? This discussion is not about me or what I feel is appropriate to comment on. It is about YOUR choice that YOU stated in a PUBLIC forum. So, now it is time for YOU to answer for YOUR post. Why are YOU more important than a fire truck or ambulance. And why is ok for YOU to block other lawfully parked cars into their spaces while you are being more important than a fire truck or ambulance. We're waiting. Actual answers, not deflections.
Chris Johnson February 02, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Matt: I'd be more than happy to answer to my post. So thoughtful of you to wait for me. If there are no other available parking spots in the front of the plaza, I don't hesitate to parallel park in your forbidden parking zone. Have I been issued a parking ticket for parking there? Yep. Guess what? I still do it. I know members of local fire departments, and I'm perfectly aware that if there's a fire, they won't hesitate to ram my SUV out of the way, in which case my insurance company would be more than happy to purchase me a new car and cover the repairs to the town's fire truck. Also, I've parked in just about every spot in the lot, and not once has a car parked on your forbidden shoulder prevented me from accessing a spot. In this instance, my personal choices have no effect on you. Get your head out of your *** and mind your own business. How's that for an answer, bud?
Elizabeth February 02, 2012 at 03:55 PM
I really can't believe what I'm reading. So Chris you're perfectly fine with disobeying the rules? You don't care if you end spending hundreds of dollars just to make it easier for you to buy a $3 cup of coffee! Why don't you just park in the handicapped spaces then? And BTW, if a fire truck ends up ramming your vehicle because you were parked illegally, do you really think your insurance company is going to pay for that? You're not really serious with these posts, are you? I think that maybe you're just trying to get a rise out of people here. Right?
Jim Braun February 02, 2012 at 05:25 PM
This is to funny. Some other things Chris probably does: 1. Drives 50 in the passing lane and never moves over. 2. Brings 25 items through the 12 items or less aisle. 3. Blocks traffic when stopping in the middle of traffic to chat with a pedestrian he knows. 4. Talks on the cell phone at the theater. 5. Parks two feet from the curb on the opposite side of the street when checking out a tag sale. 6. Never stops for pedestrians in the crosswalk. Remember people, it is Chris' world, we only live in it. All joking aside, Dennis Leary had a song about people like you.
Chris Johnson February 02, 2012 at 08:58 PM
Let me know when you come up with some comparisons that actually apply. Nobody is inconvenienced by people parking on the shoulder in front of Starbucks. We've all seen it - countless people do it. It's funny how worked up you all have gotten over what - parking illegally? Somehow, I feel like there might be bigger problems for people to focus their energy on.
Riq March 01, 2012 at 07:28 AM
I spend a lot of time in there and I'm fairly certain that there's more than 20 inside seats in the current configuration - if there are truly only going to be 19 seats then I'm guessing it would mean a more significant loss of seating capacity than is being disclosed. Plus one thing that's nice about the current setup is that it's easily reconfigured by the customers to suit the needs of the moment - chair and tables are constantly moved around. I hope that the new layout still allows for this - never thought I'd say this about about a chain coffee store in a strip mall, but from what I've seen it's the modern equivalent of the village public house.
Mom of 2 teens March 01, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Riq makes some very good points. As far as parking, maybe if we never allowed CVS to get the drive thru approval, we could have made better use of the back lot for parking and possibly an entrance off Rte 79. Many retailers have entrances in the front and rear of their stores like R.J. Julia and Walker-Loden which could have been incorporated into the redesign of CVS and Starbucks. As for Chris, your attitude speaks volumes about your character. Common courtesy out the window. If there was a fire in Starbuck's, you'd be the one pushing children out of the way to save your own sorry butt. Your character is definitely not of the caliber of the firemen that you'd be hindering who rush into fires to save people.


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